Men Behaving Badly
Since my days writing the Jewish Week column, I’ve occasionally acted as a Lorax for Jewish singles: I speak for the women who are also struggling as we encounter men who range from oblivious and inconsiderate to deliberately rude and cruel. I try to balance things – I mean, the Mean Girls of Tina Fey’s film of the same name certainly exist in the dating realm as well – but the reality is there’s a real imbalance when it comes to cruelty. And every time I think I’m done with this post, I encounter another anecdote, another tale of ludicrous human behavior. I try to write with a balanced sense of where the blame lies and attempt to avoid gender stereotyping. But with the title of this post, you get an idea where my head is at.
I’ve of late been privy to some rather disturbing dating anecdotes in which grown men behave like babies, or teenagers, or bullies on the playground exploiting the weaknesses of the women they date/hook up with/rely on. These men bill themselves as single, divorced, separated or even still married. Through deliberate deceptions or lies of omission, they leave the ladies sad, crying, disillusioned, distrusting, damaged and increasingly cynical. Some of these stories were even told to me by the men in question, with a mixture of pride and matter-of-factness. They don’t think that they’ve done anything wrong, or even particularly remarkable, and maybe, if analyzed by dating experts, they haven’t.
All the questions we ask of ourselves and of each other – are there rules and should we play by them, why are men scared of commitment, can Mars and Venus ever have a conversation, why do women ask if their outfits make them look fat, who pays on a first date, why hasn’t he called, etc – don’t produce any real answers to speak of, because every person’s situation is different. But we keep asking our friends because we need reassurance. And the eventual outcome of this constant querying is Cosmopolitans and camaraderie, dining and commiserating with the other amazing people who fill our lives while we’re waiting for “the one, ” or “a one.”
It is rumored that there are good-hearted guys out there, the “nice guys” who “would never treat you like that,” the ones who smile and mean it. But the guys referred to in the title of this post are ruining it – and us – for the men who would make suitable partners. If and when we’re lucky enough to encounter more gentle considerate souls, we may not trust them, because our experience has taught us that to protect our fragile selves, we should trust no one at all.
But I’ve long believed that – as idealistic and perhaps unlikely as it sounds – we can earn each others’ trust as we swim in what is sometimes a murky and somewhat seedy dating pool. But we will all of us – men and women, those who behave well and certainly those who behave less well – need to treat each other more honestly and considerately in the courtship and dating process. Like anything worth doing well, it takes practice and effort. But a perhaps foolishly optimistic voice in me says that it’s possible.
Examples maybe? There’s lots going on. And we need not guess at this. But suffice to say this also links up with your most popular(?) post here, ‘Driving Jewish Men Away’. Why is it that some admittedly ‘bad men’ behave badly? Women let them & enjoy being with them. They’re more exciting, someone more fascinating than ‘regular’ decent guys. Or their more successful. We all know that the A-holes get ahead in life. Where are the women who admire and romantically seek out ‘good decent souls’ over the ones who can merely bring the promise or appearance of riches and/or fleeting excitement?
It’s an eternal question. But no one needs such abuse. Few would allow it. Many still seem to tolerate it, wanting something more. Or ‘extra’. What you see, hear & feel is often what you get. And all too many women are perfectly dissatisfied with their options on offer. Until they pass them by. Then they want some reconsideration, given the options that they’ve suddenly found more wanting as the months/years drag on. Unhappy? Move on! Cheers, ‘VJ’
Still worse? The Canadian Jersey Shore:
http://www.lake-shore.ca/pics.html
Yeah, it’s everywhere you want to be… Cheers, ‘VJ’
Modern dating is so cynical and superficial. If men and women could learn to trust again and be themselves without fear or hesitation, I believe dating could be fun, exciting and hopefully rewarding once again.
When you fish for love, bait with your heart, not your brain.
– Mark Twain
Can you write something about grown men and Jdate? I am a young, independent, Jewish woman in law school. I tried Jdate, went on a few dates, and found a guy that fit the mold. He was 6ft (nice because I’m tall), Jewish, and a successful criminal prosecutor. Most of our dates were political fundraisers in which I was his young arm candy. He was like a wall, who would tell me the same stories over and over and only inquired my opinion when it came to dirty talk. I did not sleep with him, and he insisted I get tested for HIV prior to sex. I was fine with this request, but his strange bedroom talk and lack of emotion drove me away. I’m 23, he’s 32 and the only thing he seemed to really want was sex. Saying all this, why do Jewish men get on Jdate, if they are only looking for a hookup?? I have disused this with jewish/gentile friends and we are puzzled to why you would join a religious-centered dating site if all you were looking for was a young fling or arm candy???
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@tilly, sorry to hear about your bad experience. Jdate is not a religious site but rather they cater to all levels including individuals that are not Jewish. I know lots of people that have met online, including myself. I met on a site called Dosidate.com, which is religious site that operates out of Israel. You will have to sift through the profiles to find the ones that suit you. Here are some dating tips that may help you..http://emunadate.blogspot.co.il/2010/11/dating-tip-by-david-devine.html
Feel free to email me at emunadate@gmail.com.