Just Like Mom Always Hoped…Sort of…
4I just got this email. Do not ask how they got the idea I would be interested. Not that there’s anything wrong with that:
We’d like to tell you about a new site, www.qjew.com , the world’s premier dating site for nice Jewish gays and lesbians…seeking same.
Here you’ll find a community of like-minded Heebs looking for someone to take home for the holidays. It’s free to post a profile, send e-mails, and chat. Take a look around and see what unscrolls your Torah. And if you’re not into Kosher meet, forward to a friend.
Spread the word. Gossip. It’s what we do! Welcome to a whole new world of Jewish geography. If only Hebrew school had been this much fun…
Tribe y’all,
Team qjew
qjew.com
Like mom always hoped for…sort of
Before I issue them a citation for excessive punning, do any of my gay readers want to do a review?
Hello?
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Sex and the City Strikes Back
0Just when you think it’s over…
A few weekends ago, I watched the final season of “Sex and the City,†with DVD extras, commentary on the last few episodes, etc. The truly preposterous alternate endings made me appreciate the “Carrie and Big Take Manhattan†scenario that the series decided to go with. I won’t ruin it for you here, in case for some reason, you’re super-stoked to discover these decoy endings for yourself. But I wouldn’t bother. You’ll just find yourself staring at the TV, saying out loud “That’s so stupid!â€Ââ€â€trust me on this one.
In the interim, there’s other SATC related writing going on out there in the blogosphere.
Dawn Eden ponders the meaning of single against the backdrop of SATC, and proposes the alternate descriptor: “singular.†As the writer of a twice-monthly column called “First Person Singular†(which I named, BTW), I can’t help but relate to that sentiment.
Denise (finally) watches the last episode of SATC (where HAS she been?) and is pensive, envying different aspects of each of the main characters.
I read on the subway this morning that Kristin Davis and Steve Martin may be dating. I think he’s brilliant, and Lord knows, I get the appeal of funny. But I’m not sure how I feel about about this. I feel like he may be a little smug for her (side effect of comedy brilliance, as I’ve seen), but what do I know? I wish them well…
And of course, we’ve got SJP in those annoying GAP ads. And making deals with HBO to develop new shows. Think any of them will be about single Jewish gals living in NYC? Not likely.
“You’re Great, But I Don’t Want to Date You”
9Nope, that isn’t the latest book from the Sex and the City writers. It’s just the topic of this post, inspired by two posts from two separate bloggers on the blogroll…
First up is P-Life, with his nice, well-intentioned words run afoul. He found a profile of a woman who seemed great but had four kids. P-Life, having decided that he doesn’t want to go from having zero to four like that, wrote her to tell her that although he wouldn’t date her because of her children, he thought she had some great things in her profile and he wishes her the best of luck. Her response was cordial. Way more so than I might have been, frankly.
I have no doubt that he was well-intentioned. But I can tell you that in a sea of non-response that online dating can be, a message represents hope: and getting a message that says “I think you’re great but I cannot date you” is pointless and annoying, even if the intentions were pure.
Moving over to one of my fave L.A. girls (see you soon, chica!), Superjux tells the tale of a JDater who contacted her to tell her how great her profile is. (Think the Usual Suspects: “And then, like that–[whoosh]–he’s gone.”)
I have to say that it would never occur to me, unless I already knew the person, to tell someone he had a great profile if I didn’t want to get to know the person behind that profile. But apparently, there are guys who do this, and do this NOT to be jerks, but just to express appreciation. My point is that on JDate, or Frumster, or any other dating service, people are online looking for love and connection. For someone to initiate contact with you to say something nice about you seems like it should be totally fine; but for people who are looking for a meaningful connection and who are discouraged by the selection, it’s adding insult to injury. In essence, that person (who has been me on more than one occasion) hears “You’re great, but I wouldn’t date you,” which can be torture. They might even hear “I appreciate you for all that you are, but forget about dating guys who appreciate you and concentrate on someone who will treat you poorly.” Or “you should totally run for Mayor of the Friend Zone, because you’re livin’ there and you ain’t never comin’ out.”
And so I offer you this. An open letter to the guys of online dating from some of its disgruntled women:
Dear Boys,
We have no doubt that you meant to be kind. Your intentions were as pure as the driven snow or as the High Priest’s holiday garb right before Yom Kippur. But your words didn’t help us. It made us feel, again, like the perma-residents of the Friend Zone. Telling us that we are “great girls†or that you “love†our profiles, but still don’t want to date us is a unique form of torture.
Because such responses are rare, every online dating response we receive is precious. When that response turns out to be a rejection, it wounds. If you really like us, set us up with a friend. Otherwise, keep your platonic admiration to yourselves.
Wishing you all luck in finding what you’re looking for, especially if for some reason it’s not us, because we rock something fierce. If you liked our profiles, the live show’s that much better. But we guess, now, because of some unknown set of parameters that you have deemed to be dealbreakers, you’ll never know. And you’ll just have to live with that.
Cordially,
The Fabulous Single Ladies of Internet Dating
POSTS ARE A-BREWIN’ AT THE CIRCLE-“J”
1…in the JDaters Anonymous percolator… dating matters a-plenty, from religious rules against touching members of the opposite sex to hooking up, from the Friend Zone to sparkage, and maybe a little Sex and the City reflection here and there…
In the interim, check out musical condoms.
That’s right. I said “musical condoms.”
Now, you can play it safe along with music! A scientist has come up with musical condoms that apart from being a contraceptive gives you the opportunity play you own tone that gets louder as the sex gets more vigorous. Different lovemaking positions determine what tune is played by the condom, which also works like a normal contraceptive.The rubber has tiny sensors connected to a mini electronic device that produces the sounds. “But there is no danger of being electrocuted,” the Sun quoted Dr Chausovskiy as saying, who has teamed up with a manufacturer to export the condoms to Britain. They will cost about 20 per cent more than normal condoms. “But people will pay for the extra stimulation,” he added.
I bet they will. And this also gives the word “vibratto” a whole new meaning.
WANNA SEND FEEDBACK TO JDATE?
3Don’t y’all never say I don’t bring you pretty things. Like this survey of JDate you can take to “help them improve their site.”
Be sure to tell them how much you enjoy not being able to see the pictures of the people who email you when you’re not a member, or how much fun it is when random words disappear from your profile, and how much you appreciate their fine customer service skills.
You’re welcome.
DATING-RELATED BLOGCETERA
1If you’re dating online or off-, or know people who are engaged (natch) in the pursuit of the healthy, long-term relationship, you’re probably like me. You’ve got complaints. And theories. And ideas. And frustrations. And successes. (Well, maybe fewer successes, but they’re out there.) One of the reasons I founded this blog was to provide a forum for all those opinions and experiences. The way it’s worked out, a majority of the time, I feel like it’s just me pontificating. So here are a few other voices to balance this community into the approximation of a democracy.
Annabel Lee, coming to you (LIVE!) from her kingdom by the sea, is wondering why she’s on JDate, given the roundup of inappropriately-aged and -intellected men who are contacting her.
On Jewschool, “Ari Frumsky†writes about having attended the Orthodox Caucus about (what else?) the shidduch crisis. He notes two standouts, Alon Krausz of Jewishtypes.org (which matches people by personality type) and Isaac Galena, of bangitout.com.
Krausz’s site sounds like a good idea, and I’ve written about it here before, right after I signed up months ago. Since I haven’t been matched yet, I’m going to assume that I’m just generally unmatchable (a suspicion that’s slowly being confirmed by my experience with Saw You at Sinai, but that’s another post for another time).
But back to Galena, who noted that “young Jews on the Upper West Side aren’t looking to be married as much as they are looking to be happy.†Honestly, I don’t always like Bangitout. But I’m in this case, I’m gonna have to go with an “Amen, my brother.†Happiness first, then marriage. Even Tevye’s daughters knew that.
Randomly, a friend of mine had something to say today about the personality typing as matching criteria, which I wanted to share with you: “Like all the other dating solutions out there, I think this is much of a gamble as anything else. Sometimes people with personality types that seem destined for eternal conflict wind up with happy marriages, while those with the “right” type for each other just don’t click. Further proof that there is no magical solution to the inexact science of dating and match-making.”
What do you think?? Can a business model or science model be applied to dating? Is it all luck, or does “strategery†enter into it at all? Is there a set of rules that can be followed, or is every situation different? Do opposites attract, or is it important for people to be the same or similar in order to make a relationship work?
Lots of questions. Feel free to discuss these, or add some of your own.
LINES OF THE WEEK
2JDaters Anonymous readers are all levels of optimistic, intelligent and jaded. But they’re also funny…
And here are two examples for your amusement:
First, because I read it first, is Superjux’s Conversation with her Doctor:
Doctor: In the meantime, what method of birth control are you currently using?
Me: Um, Jdate. Seems to be working well.
And coming in second (because I read it second) is Annabel Lee (responding to one of my previous posts, about the non-Jewish guy who is considering joining JDate):
Be honest, and beware of falling clichés.
Indeed.
A READER ASKS…
7A letter from a reader, requesting your sensitive feedback, gentle readers…
D. writes:
Right now, I’ve got a profile on match.com. In recent months, though, profiles have gone stale — it seems like every woman there loves to laugh, loves candlelit dinners and romantic evenings by the fireplace, and wants a knight in shining armor who is as comfortable in a tux as in a pair of jeans. Sigh.
Anyhow, during a conversation at a family gathering a few months ago, I mentioned my the difficulty in meeting people in the city I just moved to. My aunt and a cousin said “Have you tried JDate?”
“I don’t think I can, because I don’t have the ‘J’.”
You see, Dad’s Jewish (Conservative, if that matters at all), and Mom is Lutheran. Dad isn’t that observant and wasn’t very enthusiastic about raising me as a Jew, so it was off to church, Sunday school, and confirmation classes. In the city where I grew up, the Jewish community is prominent but small, and intermarriage is common. (By the way, they’ve been happily married for over 40 years.)
I’m a terrible Lutheran. When I do go to church, it’s usually a Unitarian-Universalist congregation. My own personal spiritual beliefs lean more towards simple monotheism than Christianity with the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, and all that. I live in an area where the vast majority of the city’s 80,000 Jews live. I have a Jewish last name. I’m told I look Ashkenazi. I don’t have a problem with raising my children, if I have any, as Jewish. I’ve got half of my family begging me to meet and marry a Jewish girl.
My question to the JDaters: do you see anything wrong with a half-breed shagitz on JDate? Of course, if I did have a profile there, I’d explain my background and offer fair warning that I am technically a goy boy. I’ve heard that there are non-Jewish women on JDate who are looking specifically for a Jewish man, but what about gentiles looking for Jewish girls? Since the Jewish dating pool here is already very large, would it be a futile attempt?
My response, which you are free to agree or disagree with, follows:
My personal opinion is that JDate is for men and women who identify as Jews. But the reality is that there are many non-Jewish men on JDate (I have no idea about non-Jewish women on the site, as that’s not where I’m looking…)
If you do join JDate, be honest about your religious background. And if you’re looking to escape the cliches, you may be out of luck. They’re EVERYWHERE.
Readers?Anyone else care to respond?
THE BACHELORETTE
0Does anyone watch the Bachelorette? Did you watch it the first time Jen was on? What did you think of the ending?
I don’t watch it, actually. But that doesn’t stop me from having an opinion. Stop by the new My Urban Kvetch to join the discussion.
HAPPEN: NEW DATING MAGAZINE FROM MATCH.COM
1Match.com has launched Happen Magazine, an online mag dealing with dating. It’s apparently free this month, and next month requires a subscription to Match.com.
Editor in chief Janet Siroto, in her letter from the editor, says:
Happen is a new online magazine that offers a frank, funny look at dating and relationships. We call it Happen because we want to make great relationships happen…and support you through the ups, downs and hairpin turns along the way.
Here’s the link to the press release.
Some interesting articles, including this one titled “The Weight Debate” and Daniel Radosh on the ten best and ten worst moments in dating history.